Wish List
- A strict financial means test that may prohibit many debtors from filing a liquidation bankruptcy under Chapter 7;
- A requirement that all debtors must receive a briefing from an approved credit counseling agency at least six months before they can file their bankruptcy case; Note: Check with your local bankruptcy court to determine if they will waive the time restrictions in the beginning months.
- A requirement that debtors take an approved class on debt management techniques before they receive their bankruptcy discharge;
- A provision making it easier for a court to dismiss a bankruptcy case outright or to convert a Chapter 7 case to a Chapter 13 case; and
- A provision permitting a court to impose sanctions on attorneys, or even on debtors, for filing a Chapter 7 case that is dismissed or converted to a Chapter 13 case.
In addition, much of the subprime mess and the HELOC (home equity) can be attributed to lending institutions behaving as if Sixteen Tons was the new state of being.
You load sixteen tons, what do you get
Another day older and deeper in debt
Saint Peter don't you call me 'cause I can't go
I owe my soul to the company store
Liar loans are now blowing up. I talked about this recently in Bring On The Alt-A Downgrades.
Liar Loans Discharged In Bankruptcy
Debt Slavery is now in reversal. Inquiring minds should consider this extremely significant ruling: BK Judge Rules Stated Income HELOC Debt Dischargeable.
Tanta writes:
This is a big deal, and will no doubt strike real fear in the hearts of stated-income lenders everywhere. Our own Uncle Festus sent me this decision, in which Judge Leslie Tchaikovsky ruled that a National City HELOC that had been "foreclosed out" would be discharged in the debtors' Chapter 7 bankruptcy. Nat City had argued that the debt should be non-dischargeable because the debtors made material false representations (namely, lying about their income) on which Nat City relied when it made the loan. The court agreed that the debtors had in fact lied to the bank, but it held that the bank did not "reasonably rely" on the misrepresentations.I do not always agree with Tanta, but I would say that I do over 85% of the time. And I certainly agree with her post this time. She is correct on two counts:
1) This was an extremely significant ruling
2) This was the correct ruling
What is interesting to me was some of the comments, some of which defended the lenders. I have zero sympathy for the lenders and the following comments are in line with my thinking.
Tanta Writes:
Nat City gets zero sympathy for me on this one. Talk about a case of "fool me twice."
Jas Jain writes:
Tanta: �I argued some time ago that the whole point of stated income lending was to make the borrower the fall guy: the lender can make a dumb loan--knowing perfectly well that it is doing so--while shifting responsibility onto the borrower, who is the one "stating" the income and--in theory, at least--therefore liable for the misrepresentation.�
Bingo: And the reason this was carried to such an extreme was the debt slave act of 2005 in conjunction with absurd interest rate policy at the Fed, the Fed's direct sponsorship of ARMs and derivatives, and the "Ownership Society" of the Bush administration. All of which are also blowing sky high right now.
Uncle Festus writes:
A few random thoughts on things which have been raised in these comments:
1. I don't think that the lender will appeal this, because at this point it's not "binding" precedent on any other court (though it will be cited as "persuasive" precedent in future similar disputes). I think the lender will not appeal it because there is a real risk that the higher court (either the 9th Circuit itself or the Bankruptcy Appellate Panel) could affirm it and it would then become binding on the entire 9th Circuit, which encompasses the whole West Coast plus Arizona and Nevada. The money at risk in this individual case (if there is any at all) is minuscule compared to the risk of this becoming the law in the largest Circuit in the country.
Binding or not, the die is cast. Furthermore, under a Democratic Congress and Obama as president the entire bankruptcy reform act is likely to be rewritten.
As ye sow so shall ye reap.
Banks and lending institutions are now bearing the fruits of their attempts to make debt slaves out of consumers. I salute the ruling of Judge Leslie Tchaikovsky.
Mike "Mish" Shedlock
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